Q: I was listening to a tape and you made a statement that there is no suicide....
Abe: Well, actually what we said is [all deaths are]....
Q: That's right, [all deaths are] suicide. That's right, that's right.
Abe: All death is that because everything is self-created.
Q: Okay. Well, I had a question... I recently got married and my brother-in-law, he passed away at 39 years old very unexpectedly and two days after Thanksgiving. And it was just a shock to everybody. That day he was going to a concert with his girlfriend, they were going out to dinner. (Very choked up.) He was very happy, talked to everybody. And then he was gone.
Abe: Well, not really.
Q: Well, yeah. So, you know, I'm part of the family but I'm new to the family, so it's been hard for me to watch everybody else in the family, [and] my wife, deal with it. And I was just wondering, like, I really believe that he is in a better place, you know, he chose that, and that he's up there. And actually when I was out running one morning I had a conversation with him (choked up again) and he told me to tell them a few things, and I felt a little resistant at first, but I did tell the parents what he had said, you know, "Don't worry, everything's okay." And it was really some things that he would have said, so I know I was connected to it. And I guess my question is, is there anything I can do to help them with this?
There are a number of things -- it's hard for you to hear, but we're going to really go after this because we think if anyone will hear it you will. We can feel the intensity of your desire and yet you're not in a place of such closeness to it that you can't hear what we're saying.
And it's an interesting thing for us to get our thoughts around because it is something that doesn't even exist and it is the thing that you all use to not allow yourself to live. In other words, the circle of this complex subject is... (brief pause to search for words) very funny. (Laughter.) It is very funny to get a look at it in this way, you see.
When you understand that you are eternal beings -- in other words, you walk into this room, you all come willingly and yet you have not committed your life to being in this room. In a few hours, you're going to get up and you're going to walk out of here and everybody's going to say that's just fine. And yet when somebody makes their transition, which is no different than that -- they just withdraw their attention from one room and give their attention to another room -- you all act like it's the end of the world.
Jerry and Esther have a new cat that they kidnapped when they were in Louisiana -- well, the cat really kidnapped them. It sort of appeared at their motor home and said, "I want to live with you," and the owner of the park said, "We want you to take this cat," and ultimately they did. And now this cat -- Loveable Cat is her name, they call her L.C. -- she lives at the office. And Jerry wanted her to have freedom, and so in the beautiful new office building the carpenters cut a door for L.C. to come in and out. And the building is very thick, and the doors are metal so they could not put the cat door in the door. So they put it in the building and built a chute, and so there's about this much distance from outside to inside. At first, she did not like the idea of the door. Jerry said it was like trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. (Laughter.) And then he watched her, her first emergence, and it was a very interesting thing because here she's standing in the break room, a very beautiful room inside, and then she leaps up onto her shelf that has been build and she pokes herself through the tube and then out into the bright sunlight.
Well, death is sort of like that. In other words, it's not a bigger transition than that. It is something that is going from one perspective to another, but there is no sense of having left behind something. Instead, there is the exhilaration about what is on the other side.
Now the thing that we're wanting you to understand is that once L.C. goes outside, she is equally free to come back in. So she's in and out and in and out and in and out and in and out, and that is the way it is from the nonphysical perspective. In other words, the conversation that you had was a very real conversation -- nonphysical consciousness is here with you all the time.
The question is why have those of you who are still remaining in the break room, why have you limited yourself only to that experience? And that really is what these workshops are about. We're wanting to help you consciously reconnect with that broader self that you know you are. And once you gain that awareness of the wholeness of who you are, then you're like the cat that's back and forth and back and forth and back and forth and back and forth, not feeling any big deal about it, having a glorious experience no matter where your consciousness is focused, you see.
Physical beings feel so earthbound in the fact that you think you only can stay in the break room. In other words, you don't know you have access to all of that other stuff. And we know that even as we speak about death that you're really not worried about those that have made the transition. You consciously know that they really are doing very, very well. The problem that you are having and the worry that you feel is for those that feel as if they have been left behind. And that's the whole point of our conversation -- we want you to understand that you are not left behind, but you have to accept the fullness of who you are in order to understand that.
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